Helen Burns on the Tension Between Production & Authenticity, the Crisis of Pastoral Belonging, and Why Gen Z is Looking For Presence Over Information

Our guest today is Helen Burns, a beloved voice in the Canadian Church with 38 years of ministry experience. Helen and her husband John planted Relate Church in 1986, serving as lead pastors for 35 years before transitioning leadership to their daughter Angela and her husband Rod in 2018.

With a deep love for the Church and a heart for the next generation, Helen shares invaluable insights on leadership transitions, the shift from performance-driven ministry to authentic presence, and the importance of intergenerational relationships. This in-person conversation, recorded in Helen’s home, is one we are thrilled to share with you.